“Animals Know More Than We Do… And Science Is Catching Up”

🐾 Episode Description

 Trisha is joined by Pete Smith from the Institute for Quantum Consciousness to explore one of the most profound topics of our time—consciousness itself.

Together, they bridge science and spirituality, diving into the nature of the quantum field, the continuity of consciousness beyond the physical body, and the deep interconnectedness between humans, animals, and the universe.

This episode challenges conventional thinking and invites you to consider that we are not just physical beings—but multi-dimensional consciousness having a human (and sometimes animal) experience. Trisha and Pete explore the role animals play in our soul journey, revealing them as wise, sentient beings who may be guiding us more than we realise.

🐶 Episode Highlights
The growing scientific and spiritual convergence around consciousness
Accessing the afterlife while still in the physical body
The concept of reincarnation and the “wheel of life”
Animals as sentient, spiritual beings—not lesser, but possibly more evolved
The idea that we choose our form (human, animal, or otherwise) based on experience
Why animals may not have ego—and what that teaches us
Real stories of animals sensing beyond the visible world
How pets may recognise soul energy beyond the human “disguise”

⏱️ Episode Chapters
00:00 – Welcome & the global shift in consciousness
 01:13 – Meet Pete Smith & his work in quantum consciousness
 03:35 – Accessing the afterlife while still alive
 05:31 – What is consciousness? (The ocean analogy)
 07:02 – Animals in the multi-dimensional field
 09:23 – Choosing our form: human vs animal experiences
 11:00 – Are animals sentient spiritual beings?
 12:45 – What animals can see that we can’t
 16:19 – The intelligence and intuition of cats
 18:23 – Key differences between human and animal consciousness
 22:41 – Animals in the afterlife & soul connections


👤 About the Guest
Pete Smith is a teacher, author, and consciousness explorer, and the founder of the Institute for Quantum Consciousness.
With over two decades of experience, he has worked extensively in the field of spiritual regression and life-between-lives exploration through the Michael Newton Institute, where he previously served as president.

 Institute for Quantum Consciousness: 
 www.instituteforquantumconsciousness.com 

Peter Smith: www.quantumconsciousness.com.au
 
Documentary: www.unlockingquantumconsciousness.com

🐾 Animal News
A fascinating story explores how animals perceive unseen energies—highlighting a bloodhound named Georgia who reacted strongly to a 100-year-old portrait.
Through intuitive communication, it was revealed that Georgia sensed “unsettling energy” around the image—reinforcing what many pet owners already suspect: animals can detect subtle energetic shifts far beyond human perception.

🔮 Coming Up in Part 2
In Part 2, the conversation goes even deeper…
✨ Explore the concept of soul groups and how they influence your life
 ✨ Discover the fascinating idea of group consciousness in animals
 ✨ Uncover what this all means for your connection with your own animals

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Welcome to Animal Talk with Trisha McKay, where we explore the deep, intuitive connection between animals, consciousness, and the unseen worlds that shape our reality. Right now there is a profound shift in consciousness unfolding, not just within humanity, but across all living beings. As humans begin to question outdated systems and search for something more meaningful, animals continue to anchor us in truth, in presence, and in a deeper, more authentic way of being. They remind us of something we've forgotten. That what we seek already exists within us. Joining me today is Pete Smith from the Institute for Quantum Consciousness, a teacher and a guide who bridges science and spirituality, helping people awaken to their true multidimensional nature. In this episode, we explore the idea that we're not just physical beings, but energetic, interconnected consciousness, deeply linked not only to each other, but to the animal kingdom and the greater web of life itself. This is a powerful perspective shifting conversation about remembering who we are and what becomes possible when we do. So let's dive in. Hi, Pete. Great to have you here. Really excited about what we're going to cover today.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

Great to be here, Tricia. I appreciate the invite for a conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Oh, honestly, the pleasure's all mine. It's a dynamic subject. We're talking about consciousness, actually. But you know, we're also going to delve into the afterlife, what happens above and beyond. Some people just want to know the answers, and you know, maybe we can help with a few of those. Who knows? So just for the audience, could you tell us a little bit about what you do?

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Sure. Well, I do a number of things, Tricia. Um mostly I'm founder of the Institute for Quantum Consciousness, and we have people who uh work all around the world helping clients um access the quantum field to get the answers that they seek, to transcend the things in their life that are no longer working. But using some of the that sweet spot, which is the overlap between quantum physics and spirituality. So that's uh that's a big piece of my life, and obviously I write in that type of um subject as well. Uh on top of that, I'm heavily involved with the Michael Newton Institute and have been for over 20 years. Um been a leader there for a very long time, was president for 10 years under the old structure when Michael was still around. And that organization um we work in the field of life between lives, where we go between incarnations. And the beauty of that work is that we can access the afterlife while we're still here and then there's body. We don't have to wait until we leave our bodies to access the place that we go. And that's the fantastic uh outcomes of that type of work through Michael Newton's books. And you know, we're now in 40 countries in 20 different languages doing that type of work as well around the world.

SPEAKER_03 3:06

There's a lot to say about what you just said, but can I can I just go back to accessing the afterlife while you're still here? That's mind-blowing for a start, right? It is and obviously your work with the uh Michael Newton Institute, that's just huge as well. So I I can't wait to, you know, ask so many things but learn so many things. But being able to access the afterlife, which is sort of in my work as well, while we're still here. Oh, can I just say that there's been a lot of science quite recently done on consciousness, right? Absolutely. So they're discovering it a lot more. Do you have any a sum-up maybe of what they're sort of getting on to right now? That's a little bit more recent.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Well, there's a lot of work going on about the continuity of consciousness that when we leave these bodies, our consciousness continues. We've known that anecdotally for decades and decades because of near-death experiences, um, you know, astral projection, all of that, our consciousness is not stuck in our body. It can leave and it can return. The whole concept of reincarnation and and that whole wheel of life, if you like, that we continue to move through physical incarnations as our soul eva develops and evolves towards um its well, really to remember its most pristine state, I guess. But you know, there's so much happening in this field of work. Everybody's starting to talk consciousness, and there's a a meeting in the middle where, you know, near-death experiences, consciousness researchers, shamans, facilitators of consciousness, all of us are meeting in the middle. And of course, that includes animal communicators as well, because that's the sort of thing that people are doing in your field of work. But we're all we're all in the same place. We're all it's like a village and we're all coming in from different paths and we're meeting in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

And I'm loving that. I'm loving that because like you said, anecdotally, we've known about consciousness for a long time. But it's kind of either been pushed to the back or a bit of woo-woo or a bit of, you know, hoo-ha or or whatever else. But now it's a thing. It's the thing, I'm feeling, because it's everywhere right now. But just from your perspective, how would you define consciousness?

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Well, good question. Um I mean, everyone has their own slightly different um approach to consciousness and definition. If you ask a neuroscientist, they'll tell you something very different from a shaman or a Reiki master or somebody who works in my field of between lives or the quantum field. But for me, consciousness is, you know, I'd I'd usually pull in an analogy here. We have a universe that is constructed on energy. So it's like the energetic infrastructure that underpins everything is like the seafloor. Okay? And the ocean sits on top of that. So consciousness is like the ocean that sits on top of that bed of energy, is the seafloor. And then the individual marine creatures are us in our awareness as we move through that field of consciousness, that ocean, doing what we do and exploring, having experiences, meeting other creatures that are in that field of consciousness. But if you take a fish out of the water, they don't know about the water until you take them out. So we all exist in this ocean of consciousness without even knowing that we're already part of it. And of course, if you want to bring in reincarnation, we become one sea creature. That one passes away, we become another sea creature, and we continue our journey through this ocean of consciousness. But it's all supported by that infrastructure of energy that holds the whole universe in place.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

And of course, there's different layers of consciousness and different frequencies of consciousness, and well, we could just keep going on in that subject, but we'll we'll try to contain ourselves. Right. So in your quantum consciousness model, um, animals are part of a multidimensional field. Um, what does that actually mean in simple terms to you?

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Well, if you look at a universe of possibility, you look of all different permeations of who we can be and how we can incarnate, um, humans are just one. So why would we not incarnate into different types of vehicles in order to experience consciousness in all of its fullness? Now, I've had clients over the years who have gone to lifetimes on other planets, in other dimensions, they've been in different um types of bodies, some familiar, some less familiar. Um the whole animal kingdom is something that is available to us if we want to experience that. And I'm not really locked in, Trisha, to this whole evolutionary concept of, you know, you start as a bug and then you become an animal and humans are at the top. I I think that's pretty arrogant to assume humans are at the top, by the way. Because if you look into the into the eyes of your favourite pet or something like that, I mean that's that's beautiful consciousness in action.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

It so is. And I'm so on board with you there because my next question was going to be transmigration. So once you've been an animal and then you decide to be a human, you know, because there are, you know, other experts out there uh and other people out there that say differently. It's not been my experience at all, but I just wondered what your view was, and you've kind of expressed that already. But yes, we would be arrogant to think that we're at the top, because you only have to look around the planet and see what's happening there, that we're not the most intelligent being. What's been my experience over 24 years is that you come in the form of the experience you want to have. So whether it be an animal, and there are other states of consciousness in group soul and plants and you know, various beings on the planet, but you can come in whatever form at whatever time suits you in your stage or phase of consciousness and what you're wanting to learn and experience. Is that similar to you or are you on a different kind of trajectory?

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Well, that's that's similar to what we find. I mean, I I haven't had clients who've said I'm going to be a tiger next time or I was once a turtle, even though they have had those experiences at some stage of their soul lineage. A lot of people have moved through different types of bodies and all that sort of stuff. But it's not really a hierarchical approach. I like your idea of the fluidity of where we can step outside of time and space and step back in wherever we want to, depending on the evolutionary requirements of our soul and where we want to go. But you know, I mean, it's people love structure, Trisha.

unknown 9:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

And they like to have an order in a structure and they like to have certainty. But we live in a universe of uncertainty driven by our own free will. And there's so much here that is far more fluid to use that word again. Far and that's not a pun on the uh water analogy with the ocean. But you know, consciousness has this fluidity where we can drift anywhere and we have all of these different opportunities. It's powered by our free will, and we can incarnate in lots of different ways in lots of different places. Uh, if we choose to be, you know, an animal on earth, then so be it. There's some learning in that for us somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Yeah, absolutely. And I I'm going to get into that a little bit later because the experiences I've had, there's also like a group soul of beings that come to this planet that experience it in a different way than being individual. Does it mean they can't be an individual? No. But that, you know, that's quite a big subject. Maybe we'll have a bit of a d a discussion on that because a lot of people don't know about that, especially with animals. Yeah. They they don't they don't have knowledge of that. But you describe animals as sentient spiritual beings. Um, what led you to that conclusion?

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Anyone who's had a dog or a cat and they've looked into the eyes of that favourite pet can be left in absolutely no doubt that the animals around us are sentient beings. You know, at one stage we were on um on a farm and and looking after a farm for some friends, and we had a little herd of cows there, about thirty of them, and the c it was growing, and you know, you'd go out there and and you'd come face to face with a cat or a calf, and you just look into those big brown eyes and you think, wow, there's something in there that is beyond human knowing and understanding. And you know, they say the eyes are the window to the soul. And to see the way your your dog looks at you, um, you know, our our last cat who's on the other side now, I mean, she would sit in the corner and she we knew she was looking into other dimensions, the way her head was moving and her eyes were moving. She could see stuff that we couldn't. And when you think about it, you know, the the you know, the field of human um senses can only see a very small percentage of the electromagnetic spectrum. I mean, that's the electromagnetic spectrum that is X-rays, infrared, ultraviolet, gamma radiation, all of this is part of that, but we only see a tiny little percentage of all of that through our human senses. So we have to know what we have to ask what else is going on. And I know I I know our cat could see so much more of that spectrum than we could.

SPEAKER_03 12:43

Yeah. Well, they can. And you know, they say cats can walk between worlds. Uh, they totally can. And that's why a cat can be in a room where you've got the door shut. You go in to get your cat and your cat's not in there, and you hunt high and low, and you look on the bed, you look everywhere, they're not in there, you close the door, and then you go back in later, you do another one. By the third time you go in, then your cat's sitting on the bed. It's the weirdest thing. I've had so many people say that, and they go, Where did my cat go? There's not a lot in the room. It's it's they're one of the most intuitive creatures that I I've ever come across. And when we're talking about looking into their eyes and there being so much more, my experience has been, and that they've told me themselves, that when we come here in an incarnation, we come here and we have like a through the birthing process, it's like your your memory was wiped. Um because what you want to learn, you know, it's a bit like having your maths book and you've got all the solutions in the back, you know, it's not going to teach you how to do maths if you keep cheating by looking in the back. So we get that memory wiped. So that already tells you something to know that when the animals come here, they don't have it wiped. Now that that already tells you that in that state of consciousness, who's doing the learning and who's doing the teaching? Because of it, even of that single fact that and we can't remember. We might get flashbacks, we we start to get ideas, we get drawn to things. It's a bit like a maze, isn't it? We're we're walking through. Whereas the animals don't have that. The animals come here, and we're talking about the individual animals, they are coming here to work with us distinctively to help us through our journey. Because guess what? We made a plan before we came here, and the animals are part of that plan. So they still have the booklet on them of your plan. And so that's why they they're with us, and they, you know, sometimes they do some really strange behavior because they're going, you're getting off plan. You know, it's it's a plan. So I think there's so much to this subject in so many ways that, and I hope that it helps people to understand that these animal beings go way beyond cutie little Pookie. There's a vast expansive being, energy, consciousness within that animal. And uh, and that's what we're seeing when we're looking into their eyes. We're seeing the vastness and we're feeling the expression of that wisdom. So it's it's it's a remarkable thing. I mean, I'm in awe of animals in case you hadn't noticed. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Um Dogs That Know When Their Owners Are Coming Home. And um and he's he's a a very straight, sort of amusing guy. He's got this very dry sense of humour, but he's he's a phenomenal researcher into the into consciousness. And we had that same experience, except it was our cat, and who our and our cat was very attached to our son, and when he'd be coming home from work, you know, he was he was working and still living with us at the time. Um, the cat would go and sit in the window, and she knew when he was early, she knew when he was late. She'd always go and sit there as soon as he left work to come home, which was about 15 minutes away. Um, and then he would arrive and and she would not be surprised by in any way, shape, or form because she was expecting him.

SPEAKER_03 16:17

And that is just so true. And I love Rupert Sheldrake because of what he did and what he what he achieved, I saw many of his research and and experimental uh type activities and exercise that they were just amazing. Yeah. But you're right, because let me just say, I'm so glad you you chose to tell us about your cat, because cats are very underestimated. And and a cat's sort of mantra is whatever a dog can do, we can do better. And and that's and that's your typical cat, you know? So and I think in recent times, for those that are glued to social media, I've seen a vast transition with where the cats are now. Well, first of all, it became they're the most hottest thing on YouTube because they're so funny. They are hilarious, right? But they've now ventured even more so into things like Instagram. And what I'm noticing is that years ago, especially my generation, years ago, men would go, oh, cats, not touching them, horrible, you know, they're stupid. I just don't like them. They don't like me. That was it. Now there's men and their cats. It's all over Instagram. And I'm talking about the guy's lying in a bed, he's got the cat cuddled up in his arm, and he rolls over and says, morning. And the cat goes, and then he'll say, Morning to you too. I'm telling you, this is for real, and this isn't comedy. It's like this is what's happening. I'm loving it because it's what I've always known. But I'm just loving the fact that everyone is embracing and the intelligence of cats, you know, where someone will have a um a broken leg and they're walking around limping and the cat's holding up the leg. And then, you know, tossing a coin, the cat will get the dig underneath full of coins on top of its paw, hold it up and then slap it down. I haven't seen a dog do that, but this is where whatever a dog can do, I can do better. It's just anyway, it's hilarious, but thanks for sharing with me. Um, do you see animal consciousness as fundamentally the same as human consciousness or different in important ways?

SPEAKER_00 18:21

I see it as different. And, you know, even if I go back into the research that we did, and you know, Michael Newton did originally, and and I was digging out some of his um his old books as Destiny of Souls, which is his second book. And and I found a quote that I thought might be helpful for the listeners. Um, because he's got a client that's in that superconscious state and they're in touch with their afterlife self. So he's having a communication across the veil, if you like, with this person. And he says, uh what what differences do you know about between the souls of humans and the souls of animals? And this client replies from the other side, the main difference other than size and capacity is that animal souls are not ego driven. They are not over not overwhelmed by identity issues as we are. They also accept and blend with their environment rather than fighting to control it like human beings. Um we can learn from them.

SPEAKER_03 19:17

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

So that sort of drops us from the top of the karmic scale, doesn't it, for reincarnation?

SPEAKER_03 19:24

It it does, and it's something you and I know about. You know why? Because this is so important to talk about, because I feel like look, it it's from many reasons, through media, it's through teachings, learnings, ego, ego, whatever you want to call it. But animals used to be revered, and somehow in this day and age, um, apart from they're sort of making a resurgent, well, the domestic animals are, um, more so, but they're starting to become um a more important phase. But I think that if we could realize that they're not lesser beings. Yeah. In fact, to me, if there's a word, they're more of beings. You know, they're a lot more than we are. And if people could understand that, I I think that would change their whole perception of animals and their treatment in the world around animals. There's a lot out there that would like to keep animals there because it makes it easier for their practices. But in reality, they're very intelligent beings. And, you know, it's scientifically, you know, whether you're talking whales, dolphins, orcas, crows, um, these animals and their brain capacity and everything else, if you want to go scientific, they're right up there. In fact, they're they're they're overreaching us. And I think that we need an acceptance of that and to humble ourselves and to realize how important these beings are on this planet in in in many ways, way more than than than us. Way more than us. There's certain populations on the planet that are adopting fur kids over human kids. There's been a shift in a lot of um, you know, very densely populated countries. It's interesting why it's happening and this and this new concept, but animals do have a lot to give us. And I think that once we accept that and we start to treat everything and every being as an equal, I think we've got a pretty good planet going on here. And you're right, they don't have an ego, animals, they don't see the need for one, they don't even know how to operate with one. They are just being who they are, and I think that's why people are very much going towards animals because they're loving the way it makes them feel, because they can now be themselves with themselves. So it's like an acceptance on a whole different level. You're not judged, you're not bullied, they don't really care. What you have or how much you have. They see your heart center and they see you as a being, and that's what they're interested in. And they're way more forgiving than us. So, in terms of consciousness, yeah, it's a it's a very interesting discussion that I think we all need to have because I would just love it if we could wipe off animal cruelty, animal rescue, animal tourism, animal everything off the planet and start to treat everyone with respect. That would be fantastic, I think. So how do animals participate in a broader field of awareness between lives?

SPEAKER_00 22:39

I've seen clients cross over at the end of a of another lifetime, and and just so that people understand exactly what I'm talking about, with life between lives work in particular, we take people back into a past life, um, which is interesting for them, that is relevant to them, and then we take them to the end of that and they cross over and we go into the afterlife through the front door. So that's the process that Michael Newton refined over 35 years and 7,000 clients. So we take people in through there, and if animals have been really important to them, uh it's they can be met by a favorite pet that's already crossed over. It's like some people meet spirit guides, some people meet soulmates, some people meet they're uh the animals that they're most more connected to. And I think that's a beautiful thing. It's it's it's on the it's it seldom happens, but it does happen. So it proves that our animals are with us over there. There's there's reports that in order to blend the consciousness with animals while we're over there, we do need somebody to um bring their energies to us because the energy and the vibration and the density of their soul energy is a little bit different from ours at that point in time. Um but I think all of that is adaptable because we can have paths through different types of life anyway. But one of the life between life sessions that comes to mind to me in particular is a client who went across there and her role over there was to welcome the souls of the animals as they came home. And one of the questions on that she brought into her session is why does, you know, when I'm outside and I'm putting the clothes on the line or whatever it might be, why does a a sparrow come and sit on my shoulder? Why do I have this incredible connection with animals? Animals, because of this greater consciousness that you're describing, Tricia, animals would recognise her in human form and they would understand her soul energy because they see past the human disguise, of course, and they could touch the fabric of her soul and they knew who she was and what she did. Um and she described in great detail the role that she played in welcoming the souls of the animals home. Now, from all reports they may exist in a slightly different part of this afterlife dimension, but it's all one anyway. Uh I think they hang out with more with their own kind, but um they're certainly accessible.

SPEAKER_03 25:04

I do want to ask you about that. Um definitely they do recognize animal people on this side because I certainly get recognized all the time. Animals will come in and join um massive conversations, whether it's between spiders, flies, lions, it's really irrelevant. Um, but they will come to me. I've been I've sat in things, or I've been sitting with people on grass, and a lizard will come up and sit on my shoulder, or you know, so I do sometimes get the, you know, the thing, you know, snow white, you know. Yes, not quite not quite in any other, another any other facet, maybe just the animals. But but I wanted to ask you, so let me can we just step back a minute? You've said that when people go through, you know, because in these sessions they can go through the front door of the afterlife and they can meet up with these animals that are very, very important to them. Now, if you're saying that they need someone to bring them to us because they're in a s they're their consciousness is slightly different or slightly denser or the density is different, is that because I'm just thinking, if you can choose what you want to do. So if you want to be a human this time, but you want to be an animal next time, I just don't understand this density difference. So is it because of where we've gone in levels of consciousness that the density is different? So, you know, if you're the same being but you've just chosen, as the animals call it, different spacesuits.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

Yeah. My take on that, it's a good question. My take on that is that to be an animal on Earth, there's a slightly different density to the particles that we have to be in this heavy 3D environment. A lot of my clients who've had non-human lives, a lot of those have been on other planets in other dimensions. So, I mean, the animal kingdom is not just Earth. The animal kingdom is of course universally wide, you know, and we have all of these options. So um from reports out of Michael's work, um, he's had clients tell him that there's a difference in that density and they needed an intermediary in order to do that. So that's back to the foundationary part of the work that we've uh we've brought to the world through Michael and and now we're doing it for ourselves. So there seems to be a difference in the way the construct of the soul energy is made, but everything's fluid, Trisha.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

And and you know, everything responds to our intention. And if we decide that we want to change the density of these soul particles that makes us up in order for us to incarnate into a a four-legged creature, then I see no reason why we couldn't do that. I haven't had that described exactly to me, but that's that would be where I feel it's possible to embrace that free will to the next level and do anything that we want to.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Something that's come to me over my experience, and still not all the questions have been answered around it as yet. Maybe that's something I'm still supposed to discover. But the animals here, when I speak with them, you know that there's in consciousness, uh, and I've talked to many um other for you know, practitioners, people in modalities, about this. And there seems to be that there's the psychic development, there's a mediumship above that, there seems to be trance above this. We're talking just dimensional frequencies of reaching those heights, because obviously, if you're doing trance and you are connecting with other light beings or more advanced beings in terms of speech, for those who may not have heard this before, but you'd need to be at a higher, quite a high vibration to be able to do that to hold the frequency of energy or consciousness, uh, because there's all different levels. But the animals seem to be above that when you speak with them. So the frequency seems to be very high. What I haven't quite discovered yet, if we can interdisperse, sort of, you know, you can be a human, then an animal. It's interesting to see because I believe you do reach different stages of consciousness. Otherwise, what are we down here learning about? We want to get we want to get to a higher frequency. So it seems to me that coming back as an animal, depending on the way you do it or the animal, or perhaps what the intent is, you need to be of a certain frequency to come as an animal because of their unconditional love, because of their non-judgment, because of their lack of ego, because of these, all the things that we're here trying to be, they kind of already are, and they're forgiving, and they see us in a different light. They don't sweat the small stuff. The only animals that are really highly anxious or suffering behavioral issues are the ones that live with humans and are mirroring. So uh there's a that's a big area, isn't it? Because you're going, well, there are high frequencies, so do you need to reach a certain stage before you can be fluid into an animal or not? Is it the same with humans? Because there's a very, very large range of consciousness within the human form.

SPEAKER_04 30:18

There is.

SPEAKER_03 30:19

That's that's that's just kind of what what's been you know happening in the last 20 odd years.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Okay. Um coming from one of those different paths into the village, I find that what we've been doing in the quantum consciousness work in particular, is we take the consciousness beyond the body. Now once we move beyond the body into the purity of who we are in the quantum field and we're in a fully remembered state as to who we really are, the frequencies are less important. There's a big shift from living these human frequencies and the vibrations of this planet versus what happens beyond. I mean we go into that beyond and so much more is it's accessible in a more easily obtainable fashion. So my answer to your question is is sort of a side path to what you've asked, Tricia, because we look at things in terms of frequencies and and vibrations and and that's all great. But remember, while we've got any connection to human form, we're trapped in that very small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum where we can't fully experience the universe and the other dimensions that quantum physicists have been telling us about for many, many decades. You know, um the double slit experiment, you know, when that was um in 1957, that was put to the side with the when the many worlds interpretation came in. We don't collapse the wave function, we go off into all of these other realms of possibility. Alternate realities. I mean, string theory talks about other dimensions. I mean, all of those are there, we just can't see them through these human senses. While we're trapped and and married to this human form, we have to quite consciously change our frequencies in order to have different experiences, but we transcend human form so much more as available. So rather than look at that model, I've got a slightly different one where you sidestep it out into the quantum field or that eternal space that we're all part of anyway, and we reach into wherever we want to from there.

SPEAKER_03 32:20

So maybe the animals are a different frequency first up, because you're saying like we're when we're put into this body, you know, we are restricted and we are. But maybe in an animal body or frequency there's a slightly different thing going on.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

Well, so where were they before they became animals? I mean that's really the question, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 32:39

And which is really what I'm what I'm getting at. Yeah, what were they doing before animals? I had some incredible questions lined up for this conversation, but as you probably felt, it really took on a life of its own. And honestly, that's where the magic begins. In part two, we go even deeper into quantum consciousness, exploring the idea of soul groups, including the unique and individual consciousness of our own soul group here on Earth, and something truly fascinating, the group soul of animals. This next part of the conversation expands everything we've touched on here. So if you haven't fully absorbed part one, I really invite you to sit with it, because it lays the foundation for what's coming next. Trust me, you won't want to miss where this goes.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

In the vast expanse of space, nobody can hear your podcast. Bring us back to the tiny pretty blue planet's magnificent world of the podcasting civilization and out from the blackness of space by following us. If you could just give that button a tap, that would be so lovely. Woo! Cranial mass ejection sooner rather than later would be better. But up next, what does the plant think?

SPEAKER_03 33:54

You may think they're silent, but are they really? I want to share something truly magical for anyone who loves plants, or anyone curious about the hidden intelligence of nature. I'm talking about bamboo M and ginkgo, instruments from music of the plants that let you literally hear your plants speak. And I don't mean music you play to the plant. These devices actually listen to the plant. Here's how it works the device measures the tiny electrical impulses flowing between a plant's leaves and their roots. Those impulses are then converted into sound through a built-in synthesizer. What comes out is the plant's own expression. You're hearing music created by the plant itself, its rhythms, its dynamics, its personality. And here's the part that always fascinates me. At first, the plant doesn't even realize it's playing. It's just sending its natural impulses. But over time, it begins to experiment, trying different notes, changing rhythms, exploring the sounds that it can make. It's almost like the plant is learning to compose right before your eyes. These devices have a long history. They were developed through the work of the Demon Her community in Italy, who started in the 1970s exploring ways to understand plant intelligence through electrical signals. Over decades of research, they refined technology that could make these signals audible, turning invisible life forces into something we can experience and even respond to. The ginkgo is simple, elegant and ready to use. Perfect if you want to start listening to your plant right away. Plug in and listen. The Bamboo M is more advanced, offering full control over scales, tones, frequencies, and musical effects. Still easy to use. But both are designed to reveal the plant's own voice in a way that's intuitive, immersive, and magical. I actually have one here with me. I've attached it to my beautiful peace lily plant, Arielle, and I would love you to hear what she wants to express to you. This music is her, her personality, and the beauty of what is within her. If you're curious about plant consciousness, the hidden intelligence of nature, or just want to experience something completely new and magical, these instruments are definitely a doorway. The Bamboo M and Ginkgo let your plants tell their story in their own language, their own music. Check out Bamboo M and Ginkgo today and discover the incredible living music that's been there all along, just waiting for us to listen. Approved by Ariel and very much me. Next up, Animal News with Trisha and Donna. Okay, wait for it, Donna. I'm trying to be creepy. Because our next story has a bit of creepiness in it. Just saying. So this is what happened. This person, this lady, brought home a hundred-year-old portrait of a lady and put it on her wall. And her bloodhound named Georgia immediately took dislike and started barking at it. And she didn't know why, right? Oh no. So she she wouldn't even come properly into the room. Like she took one look at this person and went, nah. No way, no way. Now, before we get into Georgia, because look, I want us to talk about what she's seeing. And I know all our audience is gonna hang out waiting for that moment. But before we get there, just going to give a little bit of suspense here. We need to talk about what possibly can be going on with animals because this is not uncommon.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

I mean, okay, let's go run through a couple of scenarios here. Now, in your in your consults as well, have you ever had someone say, because I certainly have, they say, Do you know why my dog just goes and stares at the corner of the room? Oh, oh my god, yes or and then start yeah, and then starts barking. Barking at the corner of the room, and there's not even a piece of furniture there. There's nothing, it's empty, right? I had a case like this. Okay, this is gonna really spook people out, but this lady contacted me because her her cats wouldn't come into the living room. As soon as she opened the door, they ran the other way. They ran down the hall to the bedroom, never came out. They completely avoided the living area of her house. Two cats. Oh my goodness, absolutely terrified, ran, take off. Can you help me? Because I need my cats to be able to come out there because I put their food in the kitchen. Right. So, yeah, issues. So I want to talk about all of this stuff, right? Because you know as well as I do, animals can see far beyond what we can see.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Oh, absolutely. They see so much more than we do. And it's always that that split moment where you think you're just sitting there, everything's all pretty, you know, relaxed. And and next minute your animals staring at that wall. And they're in like absolute alert mode, staring at that wall, no changes, just watching, just following, and not doing anything at all. I know my dog's done it quite a few times, freaks me right out. I believe your cats have done it too in the past. They go even more freaky, don't they?

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Donna, you have looked after my cats now. Oh my god. Namely, the boy, Shay. Yes, he did this really weird thing. He might be sitting on your workbench. He's not looking into your eyes. He's looking above your head and he's making these circles with his head. He used to scare me every time he used to do that. Then you automatically look up and go, hmm, there's nothing there. Now look, you and I do see a bit beyond the veil, you know. Let's just say that. We we see a lot beyond the veil. So we are aware of when things are present. And to be really honest, Dana, we're not worried about it at all. It's quite, it's quite, we're quite relaxed in it. But Shay's done this to other people. So you can only imagine what they're thinking. And so I at some point got a bit of a reputation. My house was, you know, a bit spooky because my cat was doing these weird things. And so, look, in the end, I had to try to make something up to just relax his people. I've got the air con on and your hair's flitting a little bit about at the top. I mean, I mean, I tried either way, I tried so many, many things. But these animals can see, you know, look, admittedly, those two cats, there was something a little bit more significant going on there, and I can talk about that. But usually with your own animals, they're just seeing your loved ones or they're they're seeing energies come in, and that's why they just stare at it or they'll give a little bark, or then they just curl up and go to sleep. Because believe you me, if it wasn't good, they would take off. A bit like those two cats, um, if it's a little bit negative. And even though the cats ran off, nothing happened to the people, nothing happened in the house. There was just some goings on that was happening. So I'm gonna put this out there. The cats were showing me that a in the living room a portal had opened and they were seeing energies go in and out.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Quite a lot of energies going in and out, and they just didn't like it. Wasn't so much they were afraid of it, they just weren't comfortable with it. They said there was just too many energies. You know, cats, they like it all relaxed, they like it routine, they don't like all this change. It turns out that the lady had been running spiritual things there. Wow that she even said to me that, you know, she wasn't very experienced in it, which is what you've got to think of. But and and she may have inadvertently, you know, created something. But anyway, we solved the problem. The cats came back in the living room and all was well in the household. So it's usually nothing so horrific you can't fix, but there are changes in energy, and you can open some doors and things like that. But all the ones, all the animals I've dealt with, there's never been anything horrific or dangerous or anything like that. They just didn't like the comings and goings. You know, these cats liked everything their way, right? Other animals have just said, oh, it's a relative, or it's this one, or there's this beautiful light in the room. But they look at it because it's part of their world. Most people who haven't trained or been working with energy may not see anything. So be very careful when you say to your dog or cat, oh, don't be silly, there's nothing there.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Yeah, very true.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

You know, someone said to me when my dog barked, Oh, stop barking. You're just barking at nothing. Well, my dog took offense to that and said, I can hear something. There is something to bark at. Just because Our hearing doesn't go beyond this amount, dogs can hear for so long and they take offense to that because they're just doing their best to warn you, to alert you to something. I mean, I think it's really rude, Donna, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Oh, absolutely, I agree. I for the longest time my family would tell my dog that, you know, there's nothing there to worry about. What are you afraid of? What exactly are you afraid of? He used to run away from the door, he used to run away from this side, but nobody was there. Well, nobody physical was there. So when he used to do that, they'd be going, Oh, what's wrong with him? Why is he such a scary cat? I'm like, excuse me, he's not a scary cat. There are people there. We've got loved ones coming through the house all the time. And some of them he doesn't want anything to do with them, and sometimes he just doesn't want to be in that energy. It's too sensitive. It gets a bit strong for him. And there's nothing wrong with that, is there?

SPEAKER_03 44:50

Well, really, you know, when we say they're coming through the house, they are, but it's a just a different frequency to us because they don't have a physicalness. Yeah, and we should like our relative well, most of them. I mean a few, a few you would rather not see again. But but they're they're these they're really just visiting and you know, trying to support you. But even aside from all of that, everybody can be in their own belief systems. But these animals do see beyond what most people see. So before we kind of hoe them down, you know, maybe maybe give them the benefit of the doubt and say, okay, there might be something over there. Go over and reassure them and get them relaxed and get them to settle down and and they'll be fine. And sometimes they just want to let you know, hey, there's somebody here. Or there's a different sort of energy in the room, or I'm not sure about what I'm feeling here, nothing to worry about. It's just energy. Everything's made up on this planet of energy. But getting back to Georgia, the bloodhound.

SPEAKER_04 45:49

No, Georgia.

SPEAKER_03 45:51

I had a chat with Georgia, and Georgia said that woman, there is not nice energy around that person. So Georgia feels a bit of sinister, a bit, there's something not right with the energy, and she shows me shadows of energy around that picture. Now, is it anything for the people to worry about? Well, no, and if there was, they would be talking about it. But she can see that the energy of that person's not so great. What do you what do you think about this picture anyway, Donna?

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Yeah, look, the first time I saw that photo, that picture, I got the heebie jeeby, so I absolutely agree with Georgia. It it was not a nice feeling. You can feel that person's um energy, their disdain, and also their what they were doing or in that lifetime was not quite so great. And it's not to say that it's going to harm the people that are in that home, but Georgia senses that if this energy is in their home, why why have it there in the first place? You don't if you don't want nice energy in your house, then get rid of it. And she wants it out because it may not be a long-term, a harmful, direct harmful thing or physical, but she's sort of showing that it's not nice to your energy either, and that your home is so important. So it was quite interesting what she was saying about that. But once they took also then they realized went, okay, maybe she's got something going on around that painting. They went and got the the husband's portrait, isn't it?

unknown 47:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:23

That they put up next to it. That was a very interesting discussion there, too. I almost felt as if the woman in the portrait kind of settled down a little bit, like being put in a place with her husband on that side there. What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 47:35

Yeah, I think she would have preferred to be without him, really. But um, just saying, it's interesting our interpretation, because again, those people are a long time deceased, so they can't answer for themselves, a bit like animals. Because let me just say this: if somebody comes to your door, maybe someone you don't know might be delivering something that you might just be coming to your door, and your dog goes there, or your cat, any animal for that matter, and is growling or having a problem with that person, it's it stands out, it's definite. You might need to think because animals are brilliant at energy, they read it in a different way than us. They're a much better character reference than we'll ever be. They can judge character so well that if I ever had my dog react to somebody or my cat, I would I would look twice and think, hmm, I'm not so sure about that person. I I need to check this out. Because I trust my animal. They are so much better at this than me. Instead of us discarding it or think our animals just playing up or acting out, maybe they're not. And maybe you need to listen to it and look at it with a bit more honesty. Because honestly, in all the times I've been doing this, animals are really, really honest. They're pure. If they have a problem with it, there's usually something wrong. See you next week. If you loved this episode, don't forget to follow, share it with someone who's ready to awaken, and leave a review. It helps us continue bringing these powerful consciousness-expanding conversations to more people around the world. And remember, when we deepen our compassion, expand our awareness, and reconnect with the truth of who we are, we don't just change our lives, we help change the world. I'm Trisha McKay, and this is Animal Talk.