Beyond Human Perception: Animals, Consciousness & the Nexus of Reality

🌿 Episode Description
In this powerful Part 2 episode of Animal Talk with Trisha McCagh, Trisha continues her deep and expansive conversation with Duncan Roads, editor of Nexus Magazine, moving from the intimate world of animal consciousness into the broader intelligence of nature, information fields, and the urgent ethical questions facing humanity.

From the extraordinary story of “Brown Chook” and a mysterious intuitive vision of a cat that later appeared in Duncan’s life, to profound reflections on grief, connection, and communication beyond language, this episode explores how deeply animals can shape human consciousness.

The conversation then expands into Indigenous knowledge systems, ecological intelligence, and a thought-provoking discussion on the Fraser Island dingo controversy with guest contributor Dana Saidi. Together, they question how we interpret wildlife behaviour, how quickly we assign blame, and whether human intervention is truly serving balance in nature—or disrupting it.

This episode challenges listeners to reconsider consciousness itself—not just in animals, but in water, land, ecosystems, and even the unseen “information fields” that may connect all life.

🐶 Key Takeaways
Animals can profoundly shift human emotional and spiritual awareness
Indigenous ecological knowledge offers deeply integrated understanding of nature
Human assumptions about wildlife behaviour can lead to harmful outcomes
Ecosystems are self-regulating systems that require respect and restraint
Consciousness may extend beyond biology into fields of information and energy
Water, environment, and living systems may carry memory and influence health
The future of communication may move toward intuitive, telepathic awareness
Responsible interaction with wildlife is essential for ecological balance

⏱️ Episode Chapters
00:00 – Introduction to Part 2 with Duncan Roads
 02:00 – Brown Chook: grief, connection & animal companionship
 05:30 – The intuitive vision of a cat and manifestation
 08:00 – Indigenous ecological knowledge & reading nature
 11:30 – Fraser Island dingo controversy (Dana Saidi joins discussion)
 15:30 – Ethics of wildlife tourism & human responsibility
 19:00 – Information fields, EMF & biological influence
 23:00 – Blue Shield technology & structured environments
 28:00 – Water memory, homeopathy & surface tension science
 33:00 – Consciousness, telepathy & future human evolution
 38:00 – Wildlife protection, respect & ecological balance
 42:00 – Nexus Magazine & alternative knowledge platforms
 45:00 – Closing reflections on awakening & nature connection

🐾 Animal News
This episode’s animal news segment explores the Fraser Island (K’gari) dingo situation in Australia, following the controversial death of a Canadian tourist and the subsequent culling of dingoes on the island.

 Dana Saidi highlights ongoing public concern around whether dingoes were responsible, noting that forensic evidence remains inconclusive. Trisha McCagh adds her communication-based perspective, sharing that when she connected with the dingoes, their message was clear: “We didn’t do it.”

The discussion expands into the ethics of wildlife tourism, human responsibility in natural habitats, and the importance of respecting apex predators like dingoes, who play a vital role in ecosystem balance. Removal or culling of native species without clear evidence risks long-term ecological damage and loss of biodiversity.

The conversation also explores broader systemic issues, including government response, tourism pressure, Indigenous ecological warnings, and the need for stronger coexistence models between humans and wildlife.

👤 About the Guest
Duncan Roads is the editor and publisher of Nexus Magazine, a long-running publication exploring alternative science, consciousness, geopolitics, and emerging research beyond mainstream paradigms. His work bridges investigative journalism with explorations into information fields, energy systems, and human potential.

In this episode, he shares personal stories of animal connection alongside reflections on Indigenous knowledge systems, ecological intelligence, and cutting-edge theories around water, consciousness, and information fields.

https://nexusmagazine.com/

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Welcome back to the Animal Talk Podcast. This is part two of a dynamic conversation with Duncan Rhodes, the editor of Nexus magazine. So if you haven't listened to part one, please do so if you want to hear the beginnings of one of the most intriguing stories of farming you will ever hear. In this second part, we talk more about compromise and deals with the natural world. Plus, talking to the cells in your own body, broadening the understanding of consciousness, and Duncan's history of the animals in his life, including Brown Chook, which involves a clear vision of a cat who came into his life later.

SPEAKER_04 0:38

We're so thrilled to tell you this episode of Animal Talk with Trisha McKay is brought to you by Nexus Magazine. Look for Nexus Magazine at your local newsstand, or you can buy it online from NexusMagazine.com.

SPEAKER_03 0:51

I wanted to also talk about a a a cat that you had a vision of. Oh yeah. Can you talk about and I know about that cat because obviously I've spoken to it. Yeah. Can you tell us about that?

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Okay. Um So we had a um we were renting, we moved into a rent house and um it came with a bunch of chickens and a rooster. And my wife said, I don't want the rooster, so the rooster went to a neighbor, and we had six or seven brown and white chickens that were laying eggs and feeding them and looking after them and making sure they got away. And then after about a year, most of them started dying one by one, disappearing or dying, until we were left with one chok, brown one brown shook. And um and there was one evening, it it it had spent probably a week on its own in the chook shed, and I'm starting to think it must be getting lonely, you know, poor thing. And then one afternoon it was about three, four, four o'clock, and a massive thunderstorm was brewing, and it got really dark, and the the brown shook didn't make it up to its um chook place, and it started to roost uh on the veranda and next to the house. And I thought, oh, it's gonna get blown and you know, cold and wet. So we um took it in and put it in a box on the um dining table where it lived for the next month or two, and refused to go back to the chook shed. And it literally became um part of the household. And um so I'd have to get up early. It's brown chuck, right? It was a brown chok, just a nicer brown chok, and um and I'd have to get up early every morning and um open the door to let it out of the house, mop up any chook poo. Um so it was like literally a race to get up before at the same time it did. And then during the day it would periodically wander back into the house and and lay an egg on my chair or on our bed pillow or or somewhere, and um and um and then it would have been after a couple of months, and um I I felt a we we got attached to it and I got some virus and disease, and I came home one day and it was on its last legs, died in my arms, and I felt, oh, I can't believe I'm crying with grief over a dead chicken, because I'm a farming boy, you know, and you know, you're killing animals and eating animals and saving animals and seeing them die or whatever. You get a little bit hardened, but I was thinking, oh, this you know, chuk. So I remember reaching out to you saying, Oh, I've got anything to say. But there was a moment after the chook had died, one or two nights after the chuck died, and I mean I wasn't sobbing uncontrollably, but I was standing out on the veranda having a a tipple of wine thinking about the brown chuck and the history of pets, and I thought, I wonder if there's any more pets coming into my life. And the that thought literally came from nowhere. I wasn't wanting another pet far from it. It was even though, you know, when you have a pet, your heart opens up and you it's all worth it. But I wasn't thinking of one, and instantly I thought, I wonder if there's any more pets coming into my life. I saw this really majestic, amazing male cat, um, gun barrel grey fur, and it had a real presence about it. And I was sort of a little bit shocked because I don't get visions. I just, you know, I meditate, I don't see, I don't get feelings and visions. I'm as I'm a Taurus, I'm as thick as a brick, I'm telling you. And um, but I saw this in my mind, and I thought, wow. And I was a little bit freaked out about it because I didn't want a pet that soon. And I said to the cat in my mind, I said, You look amazing. And I said, and maybe we're meant to be together, but I am not gonna go out to pounds and adverts. I'm not gonna go out looking for you. If you're meant to be in my life, you jolly well march across the fields or however you want to, and you just turn up at my doorstep and then um I'll look after you, thinking that you know, that's gonna end that. Nothing nothing's gonna happen. And about a month or two later, all these things in my life changed very dramatically suddenly. The couple who owned the house we were renting split up and they needed to sell it. So that was all messy. And moving on short notice, and COVID had started kicking in, and the place we had lined up to move into, which were the friends of ours place, it sold for like two or three times the price the guy paid for it, and so he cashed out and moved out. And there was a day where I was thinking, I wonder where we're gonna actually move to. Our stuff's in storage, and um I mean I had a few options, but I was sort of curious as to what the the universe was holding. And then a friend of ours came in and said, I'm going to Mexico, but I need someone to look after my house. Uh, it's just around the corner. Um, the number of months worked out absolutely perfectly for what our needs were. The rent was cheap, and she said, Oh, by the way, you have to look after the cat. And so we looked at each other, and I'd forgotten about the vision, right? Totally forgotten about it. And um, we went around to the house, um, looked at the house, it had a fantastic, beautiful feeling. And then I met the cat, and it was the cat in the that I'd seen in my mind. And he was very old, and um she'd put some brevecto on the spine, and of course he started to lose his eyesight and and um hearing. So he he he literally within a few months became a blind, deaf cat, but with very good sense of smell still. And um, but you know, so yeah, long story short, he came into my life, and um after a period of adjustment, we became absolutely best friends until he passed on would have been about a year later, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 6:18

Maybe a year later.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

Yeah, I remember it. And you know what? I I remember Brown Chuk and I remember Carbonello, and uh that was the cat. But I just remember how heartbroken you were, to be really honest. It really affected you emotionally, these these two animals. You were a little bit dumbfounded as to how much you were affected, but you were, and you were so kind and so tender about these two animals. It was really quite beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Well, yeah, I mean, it's sort of like they get under your skin, animals do, and you you it made me realize it, I mean, of chickens. I mean, I remember when I first met my wife, she told me about how she raised chickens in the house. I'm going, You had chickens in the house? And she said, Yeah, we would shampoo them and hair dry them, and and I'm like, Oh my god, you know. I mean, I guess it's just old-fashioned farmers, last you know, but anyway, times change and you grow up and you realise. But yeah, so it was a big lesson to me that you can have um yeah, I I guess with the brown shook, I felt guilt that um I didn't look after it better and it died. I guess I felt that about every animal. When they die, you sort of think, was there something I could have done? Even though at the back of your mind, you know, every every one and everything comes to its time and everything's perfect.

SPEAKER_03 7:42

So um But your brown chook had a pretty good life. I remember not only the dining room table, but I think there was a chair or something purple that this took pride in place and uh wanted. So what this chuck wanted, you didn't deprive Brown Chook of it. I'm telling you now, you you Yeah, well that's true.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

I I mean, you know, you get older, it's just sort of like, well, it's you know, a cute chook, what are you gonna do? If it wants to sit there.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Well, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But you know what? Um, it was a it was a pleasure speaking to that those animals. And I tell you, you got a glowing review from memory. So, you know, that you may not want to tell you.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I can't believe how much they had to tell you.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

Oh, the and that was lit that was limited, you know. Uh imagine what we what we could have done. So, you know, um absolutely. I wanted to ask about you had a conference in um 2018, and it was all based around Aboriginal discoveries and ancient knowledge.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

And I'm just wondering if you can remember that the elders also said to watch the whales and the dolphins. Can you remember that and what that message was about?

SPEAKER_01 8:52

One of the mobs in New South Wales, there was um um sacred, I guess we call them prophecies or predictions that were um not for white man's knowledge. And um there was discussions amongst the Aboriginal elders that you know the signs are there, we should tell the white people what's going on. And the signs involved basically, I guess, physical, geopolitical, and social events over the last decades, coming to the point where when um I mean the atomic bombs, the mushroom clouds, weather and climate uh alterations, and yes, the something that the whales and the cetaceans were doing was a sign that we are very close to the big change. And um, you know, the the interpretation of the big change um seemed to vary from elder to elder, but um there was a consensus amongst some of those mobs in northern New South Wales that it was time for white people to know. Others would say, no, you know, they're white people, this is black man's business. Um you know, let's not share it. So the conference was an attempt to get the elders who believed it was uh good to share the information. And uh it's funny, you know, because I I think I made the observation at the Nexus conference. I mean, I deal and trade in information, and before the internet came along, which helped facilitate stuff, you know, you really needed to dig out and find the right people, and coincidence, you know, um uh attracted a lot of it. So I got to the point several times after dealing with, I guess, the mainstream. So any any intelligence officers that I'd had dealings with, and there have been a few, um, getting information out of those is like, you know, squeezing blood from a stone. Um and it's the same with Aboriginal elders. But if you I noticed if you ask the right questions, they were almost honor bound to answer it. Because if you've got the smarts to ask about certain things, then you deserve the answer. Whether or not you're allowed to tell others is another matter. So I found that dealing with the CIA officers and dealing with Aboriginal elders was very similar, like getting blood from a stone, because of the secrecy. And it sort of just struck me as surreal because you've got this extreme white, you know, intelligence controlling left brain culture, and you've got this other extreme, you know, living with nature, right brain culture, and they both hold on information as control tools to the point where I think it's doing a disservice to everybody on the planet. And I said to a lot of people, and a lot of elders agree with me, these are the times where we need to look past skin colour and culture, recognize we're all one, and share information that's you know of common value. And uh, that's what a lot of the things at the conference were.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

And um is it also that the uh elders, I'm just wondering, you know, maybe the elders also feel that white man in the past, or you know, we haven't only got white people on the planet, all of the other people other than, you know, maybe say we're saying we're talking about Aboriginals, the indigenous, maybe they think that the information will be used unwisely, or we're not uh in honour of it. I mean, that could be part of it as well. But when we were traveling with Eric von Daniken, we actually went up to that neck of the woods and we met some Aboriginal elders, and I was just mesmerized. I asked a particular question, and one of those elders, I think it was Uncle Magpie to be exact, and he just explained some phenomena to me because I was obviously communicating with plants and animals, that's what we were talking about. And he said, Well, all of nature speaks to us. And I remember him telling me this, and I've actually spoken about it at zoos and very various other places, but he explained to me and he said, You only have to be aware. The problem with your culture and many others is you're not looking around in front of your face. He said, We can look over at that plant there, and he said, There will be this distinct pink flower on it. He said, It will come, and we look for that, because then the bush next to it will get a berry, and the berry will be this color. And I went, right. And he said, Then we know that the fish have come. Right? He said, the fish have come, and we can and he said what we then know is we look to the sky and we see the sea eagle. And when the sea eagle appears above the river, he said, we wait and we watch because the sea eagle is observing the fish. He said, Man would usually jump in there and go, Oh, it's the season for fish, I'm just going to fish. He said, That is not so. That is not what nature tells us. So we watch the sea eagle. And when the sea eagle goes, then we partake of the fish because we now know that the breed fish have left. They have gone ahead, they are safe, all is well, production is all as should be, and we partake of what we need to. He said, that is right in front of your face, and yet nobody sees it. I've remembered that story from all those years ago, Duncan, because to me it just makes so much sense.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Sadly, not a lot of that information is being passed on to um younger generation, so you know. Um, but that information and and even when you look in the um the journals of the first missionaries and explorers, um, some of the information that was you know given onto those, which was put down in the in the journals, is incredible. But as you say, the the indigenous cultures here and the elders, they have an incredible tens of thousands of years relationship with not just the landscape, but with nature. And they address, I mean, a whole river has a has a an awareness, a bend in the river is is like its own entity or it has its own awareness. Um, a magnificent tree. I mean, it there, I mean, I I I spoke to one Aboriginal guy, and he can't leave. He's the custodian of of a certain tree out west. He can't leave that place. He's probably never gonna leave the immediate property where that tree is. He'll never see the ocean in his life, uh, unless he gets special permission or the tree says you can go. I mean, they take it very seriously, but again, it it's as there's almost a gulf in indigenous cultures like there is at white culture. There's people waking up and there's others which are just staying in the dream. And um with you know, with indigenous cultures, there are those that are very aware, and they are seeking out those who uh want want the information, but I sort of feel like two different cultures are coming to the end times of both their cycles, and it's like the Australia being the last continent to be discovered, if you like, by white people. We've got the white culture here, we've got the indigenous culture here, and it feels like it's the end of a cycle for both, and some new beginning is coming. And I hope that in the new beginning that um it's it's yeah, humans are not just dealing better with other humans of other cultures and other races and religions, but that we expand that into yeah, talking to our cells, our organs, the trees, the plants, talking to our food, talking to our disease, talking to our pets and um all the other life forms that you know are uh are out there, whether we f see them or not.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

Well, I already see signs of that, and I know that this is a pivotal year, and I I'm seeing signs of that, and I'm also noticing even in my own structure of my own courses, people flocking to this at the moment. I'm inundated because people are now waking up and and realizing and they want to commune and communicate not only with all of that, but when you communicate with animals and nature, you're communicating with yourself. You're starting to find because you can't communicate without without doing that. I'm telling you now, I teach this. So you you need to be communicating with yourself, you need to understand yourself, you need to be awake and you need to be open to so many things for you to even hear that conversation. And the conversation ranges from one word through to a sentence, a paragraph, and then to a major essay. And those that want to get to the essay have to open themselves up and change their own consciousness. And in doing that, they all of a sudden are able to understand and see so much. So I'm already seeing that, and I'm and I'm very excited by it. So now there's so much more to talk about, Duncan, because you've just got such a vast knowledge of so many things. I want to talk about, because we're talking about energy or consciousness, just everything. Now we're also talking about people awakening, changing their focus, you know, going down different funnels, this type of things. But I want to talk a little bit about technology because it doesn't only affect humans, it affects animals, and it affects plants, it affects everything. I'm not a big lover of modern technology, Duncan. I'm just going to put that out there, you know, because I I'm I'm of a few decades old and I've come from a time when there wasn't much uh technology now to a time where it absolutely dominates everything we do. And I must say we've lost a lot through it. But one of the things as simple as all of these technologies are placing a lot of electromagnetic fields and a lot of stuff around us, and it's impacting the health and well-being of our bodies. And one of the particular things that you know about and you have a lot to do with that, Sheila, it's it's actually on your website, uh, is called the Blue Shield. Oh yeah. And can we talk a little bit about that? Because I have one.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Yeah, I'd I'd like to talk to I'd like to talk to the um the science behind it a bit too. Um during during Nexus, about 25 years ago, companies started sending me requests to advertise different anti-EMF products and technology. And when I investigated most of them, I found them very lacking. They were using fear and buzzwords, but I couldn't see any genuine science or evidence that they were doing anything to mitigate it. And um, with electromagnetic fields, which can come from your circuitry, salt lamps, mobile phones, solar panels, electric toothbrush, I mean, way, um, microwave ovens, they're sort of everywhere, and we're bathed in it more and more. And obviously, if it was incredibly dangerous, then you'd see a lot more human deaths and disease and destruction. Um, but for some reason, some people are adversely affected biologically by exposure to EMF, and others aren't. I've seen examples where there's definitely a cumulative effect in some people where they'd never even heard of EMF, and they have gadgets in their ears and in the high EMF environments, and one day they wake up and they they have such pain in their head that it only alleviates if they l are are at a physical distance away from any source of electricity or EMF. So it's a real thing for people. But there is an aspect of of science which is not recognized by Western medicine, but is certainly recognized by um scientists in Scandinavia, Eastern Europe, Russia, and even in the East. And that is the subject which I would generally call information fields. Um people need to understand everything in existence that physically on Earth seems to have an information field. So it's like an unrecognized property of matter which will have size, mass, density, volume, charge, other characteristics. Everything seems to have an information field. And the Russians discovered this and worked with it in the 70s and 80s, and we reported it twice in Nexus magazine, and they did experiments generally along these lines. Um the the team of Russian scientists that I'm thinking of, whose names I can't remember, they calculated the information field of ducks, you know, ducks that go quack, quack. So ducks as a species or as a life form, um, they figured out the information field number or frequency or wavelength, but you'll be careful using those because they're actually quite specific. So I call it an information field. They figured out the information field of chickens and then the information fields of the different subspecies of both of them. But what and with um different seeds and different plants, and what I'm getting to is this they started experimenting with taking fertile chicken eggs. And exposing it to the information field of ducks. And what came out of the egg was literally half chicken, half duct, or third chicken and two-thirds duct, or some variation of it. And they did this repeatedly, and there's no physical contact. It's only an information field. They did it with seeds and found different plant structures. They started doing it with quite a few things. And then one of the old scientists had a light bulb moment because he's in his 70s, you know, loose teeth, sagging skin, grey hair, age spots, and he thinks, why don't I expose my body to the information field of a young virile male? And he did, and his hair started regrowing, and his teeth started firming up, and his skin looked better, and he got more vitality. And um, and that's where I lost the information trail back then of that particular line of research. But it has surfaced in many places with similar stuff, and it is quite phenomenal to understand these information fields. I won't I don't want to go too far off on a tangent, but there's another team of scientists who did some experiments with salamander and frog eggs, and they had a jar of salamander spawn, and they had a jar of frog spawn, and they got a low-level light, which in theory was going to push. There's the two beakers next to each other. They got a low-level light which was ideally going to push, they could put it on this side of the frog spawn. So the light went through the frog spawn and onto the salamander spawn, with the idea that it's pushing the information field using light from here onto that. And of course, the salamander spawn, half of them spawned as frogs. So we're talking genetic information isn't just physical, and it's been proven over and over and over. Now, getting back to Blue Shield, because Blue Shield is one of two um companies that we sell products for um which deal with information fields. Now, the guy who invented the Blue Shield used to work in some form of classified science research. So I suspect he may have taken some of his understandings and information and ported it to the civilian sector successfully, because if you take apart any blue shield, you cannot see anything that is making a scalar field or an information field. It's quite it's quite bizarre. And as a result, people have taken them apart and said this is a hoax. But I've seen Blue Shield working on causing plants and lawns to become lusher and greener. In the early days we were selling Blue Shield, beekeepers reported that their bee populations were stopping, declining, and were increasing. And um so it was having an effect on it. The guy who invented Blue Shield, his approach to negating the biological effects of EMF was along the lines of that inside EMF is incoherent, unstructured information fields, the likes of which have never been seen on Earth before. They don't exist in any natural setting. They've never been replicated. They are foreign, there's no rhyme or reason or rhythm or pulse, they are incoherent, unstructured information fields. Blue shield seeks to flood the immediate area of 90 meters radius, 45 meter radius is literally a bubble of very structured information fields. And they use they particularly use the golden ratio, the phi ratio, and other structured fields that are found in nature, like around waterfalls or around the surf, or the fields that are created when wind goes through a forest. Everything found in nature. So when I steal a blue shield, I've got to figure out how much EMF is in the background of the buyer. Are they on a five-acre block with no towers, or are they in the middle of a city with everyone around them with Wi-Fi routers? And basically you pick the blue shield, which matches the intensity of the information field. So blue shield saturates the area with a structured information field, and I see it improving the health and the vitality of especially animals. Rescue dogs, when we set up the Nexus shop at Mulaney, we put a very powerful blue shield on and just left it on 24-7. So it's radiating like 180, sorry, 90 meters of radius. And very soon after we put it on, we we had a couple of regular dog walkers who come by early in the day. We were opening the shop at nine, but there were people walking dogs at six and at seven, and they started a report that their dog would want to not just drink a bit of our water, but it wanted to lay in front of our shop sliding door, dead weight on the concrete, and did not want to be moved. The owner said, I literally would have to drag it, you know, you wouldn't want to get up on his feet. And it just wanted a bit of time there, and then it would get up. And they said to me, Do you know what's going on? So when you get two or three locals independently telling you this, you know something's going on. And I said to them, I suspect it's you know evolution of technology, it makes, you know, good information fields and animals and plants and insects certainly respond to it. Interestingly, all those three dogs were rescue dogs. So there would have been a bit of trauma, maybe, in their background. The the local dogs loved by the people, not so much um um responding to a need for the um. There's another technology we sell these, which also says this is a company based in Switzerland, they deal with nanotechnology and they work with information fields in an amazing way. They also say that the problem of EMF is the unstructured information fields. They call it incoherent or random noise, but it's the same thing. And they claim to be able to remove that from the immediate vicinity of about one or two or three square meters into their proprietary ceramic material. Now, this gets interesting because I got the the nerds out to the shop to ask them all these questions, and um their proprietary ceramic material not only can remove offending information fields into the ceramic material, but it can release desired information fields into the immediate environment. So they have a thing which they have a thing which treats water and it doesn't come in contact with the water, it literally sits next to the pipe, and as the water flows by it, their proprietary ceramic material is removing the information field out of every known pesticide, E. coli, DDT, fluoride, chlorine. But the molecules of those things are in the water. So when something biological drinks that water, even though it's got the molecules of those substances in there, those substances don't seem to have a biological effect. An example is a chicken farm in South Australia. They use this to remove the information fields of not only pesticides and other crap in the water, but specifically fluoride and chlorine. And then because the chickens are sold for human consumption, they have to be sacrificed every so often and tested and approved. And they found there's absolutely no evidence of chlorine or fluoride products or residue anywhere in the chicken, despite the physical molecule being there. So that it seems if you take the information of a substance out of the substance, you've changed the how that substance affects with a living organism. And um, I mean they've applied this technology to swimming pools. They take um the information fields out of the water um so that you don't need to put chlorine and ozone into a pool to stop it from going into a green bloom. So it's got practical values. And when you think about it, the science of homeopathy, which was regarded as the you know uh class A gold standard medical treatment for for centuries by the world's top scientists, that is information for your technology. You're taking a substance, you're shaking it up and down, and then you're taking one drop of it, putting it into a container of, you know, saline solution, shaking that up and down, taking one drop out of that, doing it again 50 or 100 times. And the the critic's argument against homeopathy is if you take the a drop of the final substance, there's nothing measurable of whatever you medicine you put in there. There's no trace of it. So they're saying it's all hocus pocus. But the information of that substance is in there at a at a ratio or at a dilution level that actually has you know positive or negative changes on the human system. So information fields are a real thing, and there's no incentive for any drug company to ever open that door and investigate um that sort of you know idea of thinking. So Blue Shield is successful because it's creating a structured information field which is improving the health vitality of everyone around. I mean, I'd get reports of neighbors of like someone will buy a Blue Shield cube for their house, it's going into the neighbors, and the neighbors will say, Oh, my son isn't getting anywhere near enough as many migraines, or, you know, my lawn's going lusher and greener next to your house. I mean, there's so much evidence of of a response to it. But if you walk around with a trifield meter or any other form of of a technology which measures hertz or frequency, wavelength, there's nothing. So these information fields I would suggest are on the level of scalar fields or torsion fields. And obviously some technology exists to measure or or to use them. But when you think about that, that's quite empowering information. And um quite empowering.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

Okay, I'm sitting here going, okay, I'm just waiting for Duncan to stop with his information because I have to first of all, I've got a blue shield and I've noticed difference not only for myself, but plants, there's more birds coming into my yard, but there's more just the whole thing. But let that's just a bit mind-blowing. Let's just go to the next sector. Can okay. If we put one of these devices in an agricultural situation, do we need pesticides? Can we improve soil quality because this can the soil this is just like it's just like I'm sure someone's out there going, of course, but I'm just saying, can because this could just change everything. Can we put the information of minerals in there and the plant is then growing from the knowledge it has these minerals and it doesn't need so we can almost transform organic farming. I mean, this is just sorry, it's just blowing my mind.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Well, you you're you're right on because the the Swiss company I was referring to who does the water and also removes EMF from the this unstructured field from the air, they do have products for the soil, and it's exactly along that line. They will remove the information fields of bad chemicals that are in the soil from bad farming practices and put good ones in there. When it comes, see, pesticides are used to increase your yield and get rid of competitors. And um there are new non-toxic robot machines which just go up and down the roads and they literally laser beam flying insects, you know, which trigger the thing. So they're getting really um advanced with um not using poisons as much because the public more and more are rejecting poisons and the demand is forcing it. But I would have thought the most the most um interesting way to go is to stand out there on the farm with your um hands on your hips and say, okay, pests, you're gonna have that row on that on that part of the paddock and leave the rest for us and not use pesticides that way. And um and talk to the farmers. I mean, if that dude in Scotland can get 40 pound cabbages just by talking to them, I mean that's gotta be that's gotta be more fun than um coming up with you know information field technology, which is just uh uh I like the long way around. I mean, that opens the door to say this is what's available and this is what's going on, you know. Now you've opened this door into this room, the implications can be, you know, so if we go to Dr.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Romoto, the power of water, let's just talk about water, and we're saying that if you've got you had these, the salamander and the frog and things like say we've got these two things of water. We know about this, that he did the experiment where, you know, say you're saying to one jar of water um in uh how wonderful you are, how beautiful you look, how wonderful you taste, all of these things, uh, compliments, and then to the other jar of water you're negating and putting a lot of negativity in there and and so on and so forth. And then he put it under the electron microscope, and there was amazing results with those two. This is the same water, no difference. They had a control water as well. What I'm trying to get to is that humans are made up of between 70 and 75 or 80% water. So when somebody is saying that negativity to us, or we're allowing to sit in negativity, we were talking about news and things earlier, then that must change our water, our consistency of our bottom body from negative to positive. That's what excites me about it because the prospects are so huge. I I'm my my mind's just going off like fireworks right now.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Yeah, look, the Aboriginal culture would sing, I mean, that their song lines were underground water, rivers and and systems, and they would sing into the song lines on the east coast, knowing that the water would convey it under the continent over to the west coast. So they their understanding of water is also there. Um I find it fascinating how many um um UFO visitors come to the planet and are very attracted to the water on Earth. And the few times that there's been recorded conversations between humans and the occupants of UFOs in relation to water, the humans have been told that water is like a liquid crystal. Um, from a small sample of water on Earth, they can they can detect the entire history of the planet, including all the species. And it's something to do with not just the information fields with water, which connects with all water on the planet, but the fact that water has been through the bodies of trees, of plants and animals, of cells, and it's gone back into the environment, it's turned into rain, it's come down, it's gone into the oceans, it's gone back into animals. So the water on the planet has been in and out of so many life forms of of all shapes and sizes throughout history, retaining memory on some information field level. And every time it gets into an ocean, that that information is shared with the entire ocean. So, so much so that an ET can come here, get a sample of water from the ocean, and understand the entire biological history of the planet. So there is something really interesting and different about water. And um, yeah, there's some fascinating research coming out about deuterium water and um low surface tension water. For our life force, we can't survive without it.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

There's just no way we can do without it. Well, we're but we can't we can't reproduce it. Yes, they can desalinate and things like that, but we can't make water.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Well, we you can mix different chemicals together and as a have water as a byproduct that wasn't there before with H2O, but you know, that's that's down to atoms and molecules.

SPEAKER_03 37:42

I mean, but it's like a unique Well, Vita Austen talks about the memory of water, and she teaches you how to put a very small amount of water into a Petri dish and then spend 30 seconds with it, you know, to thinking about something and instilling it in there, and then you freeze it, and when you come out, it has a visual of what you were saying or thinking. So that already speaks for itself, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01 38:12

There was a study back in the 70s, I forget the name of the savant who who led the thing, but they wanted to find out why all these different tribes were living to 120 or older on a regular basis. So they went, the Hunza Valley was one of the places typically. So they went there and they studied everything in the food. Um, you know, they they totally broke down the food and looked at what minerals, etc., trying to find the common denominator between um what what they were consuming or exposed to in their environment that made them live to 120, whereas family members a mile away were living to normal ages. And the to cut a long story short, they found it was the surface tension of the water. Now, surface tension, if you remember your high school physics, is you know, when you get a beaker of water, you get a flat razor blade and it can float. If the surface tension is high, a flat razor blade won't sink. Insects, you know, skim around on the meniscus of the surface with the, you know, you see it on David Attenborough. But if a water has low surface tension, the razor blade will sink and the insect's legs will penetrate that meniscus and you know they'll have trouble. But if you drink low surface tension water, it is next level. It um conducts electricity better, eliminates waste better, hydrates better, transports stuff through the body, everything is just next level. And um they discovered or felt that the water was low surface tension in those areas due to some form of crystal or magnetic anomalous field in that area. And um so the the hunt was on how can you artificially lower the surface tension of water and um and um make it um you know drinkable, etc. I there's been a lot of research. There was a multi-level um substance that came along, you added to the water by one of the guys, scientists who was on the team. But I think generally speaking, that's um I've heard if you put a few drops of fresh lemon juice into a glass of water, it will lower the surface tension. But uh, even if it doesn't, it's it's very good for you. So there's still a lot to understand about water. There's an amazing guy out there, Jerry Pollack, who wrote a book called The Fourth Phase of Water. That's really um a good thing to understand. Um, back in the early days of Nexus, the big thing I was interested in in the mid-80s was cars that ran on water. Um, in some cases, you just put petrol in the car with an additive and boom, it would power and ignite. Um, in other cases, you would take water, um, split hydrogen, oxygen out, recombine them at a different ratio, burn that gas, and that gas had mystical properties. Um, that was Brown's gas or Rhodes gas. And um Nexus did a lot of stories on it. So there's plenty of interesting science on the fringe, which when you look back on it, you can see how it uh feeds into the central understanding. So water is definitely one of the most magical um credibles on our planet. We yeah, we should definitely bless the water. I mean, we use it for christening and baptisms. I mean, so many you know, it's yeah, if you talk to your water before you drink it, it's gonna do extra good stuff for the body. And I and look, for anyone sitting on the fence out there who thinks some of this is a bit woo, you know, the idea of talking to plants, vegetables, and animals, I sort of think, what have you got to lose? I mean, if you've got a problem that can be fixed and there's no real outcome, you know, talking to talking to other life forms, talking to your issues and your problems, what have you got to lose, you know, by giving it a go? I mean, I I sort of don't see why, you know, people would give it a go, you know. I mean, well, me neither.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

And that's what we're trying to try to do right now, for sure. Where do you think animal communication and telepathy is going, is heading in the future?

SPEAKER_01 42:06

I think it is the future. I think telepathy is, you know, I mean, people will use telepathy to talk to their cells, their food, their passed over dead ones, their um animals, their plants. I mean, if we don't go down that road, we're gonna have a dystopian future, or it's bad to mad back to Mad Max in the Stone Age. The the road out for mankind to evolve and to travel the stars and to end war is to go down the road of telepathy, you know, stop being told what to think. You've if you've developed telepathy, you can go straight to the source, you know. You can, you know, is this person lying or is this person telling the truth, you know? And you don't have to diss them or put them down, but the empowerment it gives you to make decisions, the more you start trusting yourself and to go down this road. And if you're working with honorable intentions and you know, greed and fear isn't a part of the equation, it's it's the future. We have to go down this road of awakening and telepathy is I mean, it's already in us, we're already using it, we're just not listening to it, we haven't identified it, we haven't said, Well, that feeling I got, that's telepathy, you know. And um, you don't have to go running around booking speaker circuits and going, you know, and telling everybody. You work with it, you build it. And um, because these these are personal private relationships you you got when you're communicating.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

So but also there's a lot less there's a lot less misinterpretation and misunderstanding. That's what I love about it, and every species can speak it. It's not like a on on planet where they've developed all these different languages which can have all different meanings, all sorts of things. It's a it's a more pure form of of communication. Look, I want to thank you so much uh for just sharing this information and this knowledge with us. But what I do want to know is that um the Nexus magazine, so if people Want to get hold of the Nexus magazine, how do they do that?

SPEAKER_01 44:03

Oh, you've got two ways. If you like um the old-fashioned way and you've still got an attention span, go to your local news agent and ask for Nexus Magazine there. It's at most of them. If you can't find it there, just go to NexusMagazine.com.

SPEAKER_03 44:15

And also, they can also get Nexus Newsfeed. Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Nexus Newsfeed is a project I started up ten plus years ago. It's a 24-7 alternative newsfeed aggregation service. It's literally running on skeleton crew, and I've got um uh things in the works to take it to the next level. So it would probably be the first place I would go to in the future for seeing what's gone on the day before or the night before in terms of everything to do with alternative health. I mean, right at the coal face where, you know, laws and discoveries and and things, good and bad, paranormal geopolitics. Um, because basically I spend my day at the coalface on a lot of these topics, and um I'm not seeing it get translated to the news feed, mainly for technical and time reasons, but that's being addressed because we're getting we are in the age of the Great Awakening. I've got to say, since COVID, for whatever reason, people have been waking up since COVID to more and more things. People are starting to see through the mainstream narratives, they're you know, they're starting to feel what's true as opposed to what they're being told is what's true. So we are in the period of the Great Awakening and it and it's accelerating. And telepathy is the key. Um most of the ETs that come to the planet, they use telepathy to talk to humans. Some don't. Some of them are a bit retarded and have still got mechanical devices to do the translation. And um and even then, half of them, it's it's they hear the English in their heads still. So yeah, but it's it's the it's the future. And um I've got to say, even though it sounds a bit out of left field, there's an amazing number of ETs that have come to Earth and they get out and they talk and they all say, you know, we're here to take samples and measure and observe because Earth's about to go through a massive change. And none of us have got any idea what's going to happen on the other side. This has never been done before. This has never happened before.

SPEAKER_03 46:15

So well, we are an experimental planet, and we're pivotal to a lot of universes, I've been told, through through messages. So, and and that the uh animals and the natural world are very pivotal to this, and they have a lot of the answers. That's why we're getting them from there. So, thank you very much. So, people remember Nexismagazine.com. You can also get the products there to do with the EMX, uh, EMF scalar waves and everything else, and Nexus Newsfeed along with that. So, thank you very much, Duncan, for your time. Absolutely pleasant, loved it, blow my mind, heads gone off. Thank you so much, and I'm sure that we're going to speak again. Thanks, Trish.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

I really enjoyed it, and more power to you and your podcast.

SPEAKER_03 46:58

Thank you, Duncan. Bye for now. A truly thought-expanding conversation with Duncan Rhodes, reminding us that there's always more to explore when we're willing to question, stay curious, and look beyond the surface.

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SPEAKER_00 50:13

So, Tricia, I've got another story for you. I'm sure you've been following it. We are all in Australia have been following this story for the past several weeks. Now, as you know, we have our iconic species, the dingo. And what's happened recently on Fraser Island was a body of a Canadian woman was found on the beach, and it was found surrounded by ten dingos on Fraser Island.

SPEAKER_03 50:40

Let's just um explain what a dingo is, um, just for the people that maybe um don't know Australian. So it's a type of dog. Um, but it's a wild dog, and its DNA actually is independent. Its DNA is like no other dog on the planet. So it's something very, very unique and iconic, as you said. Please continue.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Absolutely. Absolutely. It is one of the most iconic here. It is our apex predator, it is our regulator of our ecosystem and the most underestimated species here. Complete extremely intelligent species. Now, on this Fraser Island, there are many dingo packs. Uh, Fraser Island is a big tourist destination because people want to see the dingos. However, now that this has happened, now that we've found a uh found this woman's death there, they're assuming that the dingos killed her. Now, I don't know if you know 100% how true that is, but it's a case we've been following for quite a while now in Australia. They've now still been inconclusive on whether she had passed away first and then they just found her, or if the dingos actually killed her. And it's caused quite a big stir in Australia in our community because the Queensland government has decided for the safety of everyone there that they will cull, and they have so culled at least 10 dingos on that island. Now, I don't know about you, but it absolutely annoys the hell out of me for the way they've gone about this, the way that they've handled this. It is their island, it is their space. Why on earth are we now siding with people yet again?

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Well, there's so many things to unpack in this story. I I don't even know where to begin. But first of all, yes, I have been following the story, and the first, one of the first things I did was connect in with the dingos because I went, what's happened? And they said, we didn't do it. Meaning causing her death. Did they bite her afterwards if it's a dead body lying there or a body lying there, or they're trying to work it out and they're looking for food? Sure. But they said they didn't do it. That's it. They just said, we didn't do it. That was the exact words they said, and I went, okay, well, this is going to be quite big. And they said, but we didn't do it. It just looked bad because where they found the woman, they were surrounding her, well, of course they will. And if you, if anybody there has been to Africa or any any wild place on earth, they'll know the vultures will circle if you are dying. Because everything in nature gets used. So if if one animal kills another animal to eat it, and a bigger animal comes along and that animal runs off, it will eat it. Even if it didn't catch it, it'll eat it because that's the only food that sometimes is available. So I believe the dingos. Okay? They don't animals don't lie. They're not like humans. They don't lie. So, first of all, it none of the forensic evidence is conclusive. They don't know. If something else comes out, well, you know, it's been a long time now already. So, you know, this is what's happened. And they've already culled dingos because they have to appease the worrying people, but we're going to talk about that as well. But if there's no forensic evidence, these dingos are actually in low numbers already. And we in Australia have to start thinking about our animals because honestly, our extinction rate is terrible. Now, we've got these unique animals that live on that island that are in low numbers and we're already culling. So we're cutting down DNA and population and, you know, all sorts of mess. If we had an expert on here, I'm sure they could put it in a lot more detail. But the point is, why? I want to talk about the real reasons because it doesn't make sense, right? It just doesn't. Now, the person who died was an actual tourist from overseas, and they were here, you know, obviously, you know, um, you know, having a good time there. But what I want to talk about is first of all, this is a tourist destination. It's a bit like the sharks. If you don't want to get eaten by a shark or get caught up in a shark problem, don't go in the water. We're land animals. We've talked about this before. If you're worried about the dingos, don't go to Fraser Island. Simply don't go. Because it's their habitat. When I went to Africa and I was a volunteer over there, and I worked with lions, um, hyenas, vultures, eagles. I worked with very large animals. Cheetah, you name it. I had to take precautions. We were taught to not do this, to not do that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, if you did, well, that's the consequences, love. That's virtually what it is. They weren't going to kill an animal or do something for me. I had to do the right thing and be aware. Now, nothing happened to me because I followed those rules. And I think that in this case on Fraser Island, there need to be rules, and if they get broken, then the people need to be taken off. Simple as that. The amazing indigenous people we have in this country have spoken out about Fraser Island, but they were not heard as usual. We're not listening to our Indigenous. And they said that at certain times of the year, whether it be mating season and certain things that wild animals go through, it's not a good idea to have a large amount of people on that island. Now, this is what they've said, and they weren't consulted over this cull. They just weren't. So already there's so many things on so many levels, they're questioning tourism versus animals and nature. Well, I think we know the answer to that. And I think that the authorities have got to say, hey, if we've got to close down Fraser Island to keep our iconic animals, so be it. We lose one island. Do we have to be everywhere? No. Come on. You know, this is just ridiculous. And this is just another part where animals were killed for the benefit of benefit of humans or tourism. They're exploited in some way. I'm sorry. I feel quite angry about that. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 56:56

Well, you know, and this is absolutely riled me up. I have been following it from the beginning. And what's more was there was so much public support for not culling these dingos. And yet the government completely ignored the Australian community. There was a lot of support, surprisingly, you would expect to be a bit of a change. But in Australia, no, we were all saying leave them alone. If you go there, you're bringing it on yourself. You are risking it. And furthermore, to appease the international community does not it's not gonna work. We can't sit here people pleasing the international community when we're risking killing off our dingos. These this species is such a unique species, as you said. It's not like anything else in the world. It literally keeps our ecosystem in check in Australia. It's the ultimate, ultimate predator, looks after everything, regulates all of the animals there, and it keeps everything in balance. And why? Why do we keep doing this at the cost of ruining balance in the environment? And why do we keep doing this just to please humans? It's just we need to we need to change things. There definitely should be no more people on that island. It should be really just the local people that live there and stay there. But we shouldn't be doing this anymore. We should not be sacrificing it. It's not fair. Well, still rasping.

SPEAKER_03 58:13

I guess the difference is why the indigenous people should be living there or whatever they're doing. They know about the land, they know about everything. The thing I love about the indigenous is they know how to live with the nature. We don't. If nature doesn't suit us, we just hack it down. Like it's like, you know, the indigenous will go, well, we do that, the animals do that, the plants do that. Everything works hand in hand. If we learn to live with everything instead of wiping everything out to suit ourselves, you know what? I think climate change, I think a lot of things on this planet wouldn't be the way it is. But it is. When are we going to wake up? And I know a lot of people are, and I know a lot of people listening to this will be going, yeah, here, here, I'm I'm I'm with you on this. But we have to actually stand up, start petitioning. We have to start letting the government know how we feel. We have to have a stronger voice. And I think it's come the time because dingos are now, they didn't do it. Where's the innocent until proven guilty? They weren't proven guilty, but they were slain. I'm sorry, that is wrong in any language, anywhere in the world, anyhow. And what right do humans have when those dingos belong on that island? What right do we have to go kill them because, oh, it didn't fit in with one of the humans? Now I'm sorry about that girl, and I hope nothing, you know, that, you know, if she drowned or whatever, I absolutely feel horrific about that, but it wasn't the dingos, is the point we're making, not about the girl's death, because, you know, there's it's horrible when, you know, the poor girl is she's away from her family, she's away over here. But I feel like we may have let her down as well, and I am worried about that. That perhaps we didn't have enough boundaries and rules on the island that was clear for her to follow. Because maybe that's part of it. Maybe she she did just drown, she got into trouble, and that was no one's fault. Nobody seems to know. But if it was our fault because we didn't tell her something, I'm very sorry about that. But it wasn't the dingoes, and the dingos should be treated with the same respect as that girl because they didn't do it, and there's no proof to say they did. Still, there isn't. So on what grounds did they do it? Oh, because it might affect tourism. If it's to do with safety, they wouldn't have you on the island in the first place if they were that worried that dingos were gonna go and kill people. Seriously. Should they have you on the island at all, if that's the case? I I asked that question. And I'm sure you do too, Donna. I mean, really, you know, I mean, it's not just the dingos, is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:50

No. No, it's not, no. We we we really need to become more responsible when it comes to wildlife tourism, when it comes to allowing people in these remote islands. We need more respect. We need to be a lot more respected, a lot more humble when it comes to coming around these places. And hopefully this will create some sort of precedence in the future and keep encouraging our Australian community to support the animals instead of trying to support the people.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:19

Yeah. Look, I I did a blog back when COVID was on, you know. We've talked about other stories, the gorillas and, you know, various stories, but I did this blog because when COVID happened and all the humans disappeared indoors off the planet, the animals thrived. They felt relaxed again. They're the ones under pressure. You know, there was all the divers in at the stingrays. They couldn't produce, they they they couldn't mate, they couldn't feed because every time at their feeding times there'd be hundreds of people in the water. I'd like to say this, I'm not gonna just blame governments and their policies. We as people, you have to start being responsible when you're going out and filming wildlife, being around wildlife, taking boats out to Wales. They have a right to their privacy. Look, I remember being in Africa, I'm on a safari, and these poor lions were skinny, they were trying to feed their babies, they were trying to go on a hunt, and these vehicles were following them, scaring off all the prey. Do people not understand that we are affecting everything about animals? And it's time we went, enough's enough, we've got to leave them alone. What? Just so you can get a snapshot. If you want to get that experience by all means, but be respectful of other people in the water, the timings and what the animal's doing. You know, we we're very much for, you know, with little animals, whether it's dogs or cats, you know, why don't you just sit there and wait for the animal to come to you? Well, I think the same is for an animal. If you want to see a stingray or something like that, you've got to find ways where you can do that without disruption. And I think that that goes across the board on every country, and there are countries taking responsibility for this and actually putting laws in place so animals have privacy. You know, people will say about paparazzi with movie stars and things like that, or look at the Ferrar over Princess Diana. But the point is that's horrific. Well, that's what we're doing to the animals, that's what's happening to the animals, but they can't get away. But in COVID, they all came out and went, Oh, what a wonderful place the world would be without humans everywhere. So I think everyone should give that a thought. And what part can we play in not destroying another's habitat, another's persona, another's personal space, or their mere survival, because we're actually affecting their survival. So for those of you who are out there that are vying for this and working hard on preserving and conserving, good on you. Uh I absolutely applaud you. I'm one of them. Donna's another one. And if we make our numbers larger and larger and larger, we're going to see a really big result across the planet.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:05

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